Great memories!! I loved that place. served on board the Canopus AS34 from 73 to 75spent most of my entire duration taking care of the small boats and left my final duty as duty boat electrician IC3 Bishopif you went over to the beach via small boat, then you definitely passed by me. In January 2014, declassified state documents opened and placed in the National Archives at Kew, revealed that the MoD had supported proposals which could have seen a royal visit take place at the American base: THE Queen Mother was banned from visiting an American nuclear base in Scotland, newly released files have revealed. This marked the beginning over 30 years of almost continuous service on the waters of the Clyde, during which the Los Alamos completed over 2,800 submarine docking operations. Following an approach to the British government, requesting permission to establish a refit site in the United Kingdom for Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM) submarines, an agreement was negotiated which permitted the US to use the Holy Loch, on the Firth of Clyde, for the anchorage of a submarine tender, a large dry dock, and other supporting craft. Lazaretto Point was the site of a quarantine station, built in 1807 the station was installed to prevent the importation of disease along with the bales of cotton arriving by boat. The tugboatwas assigned tothe American nuclear submarine base at Holy Loch, Scotland. I was the cook on board. In 1961, Dunoon found itself suddenly transformed from a slightly rundown seaside resort to a garrison town. I had so many friends who were American would love to know where they are now, Lester Reed, Courtnay taylor, Julie Ewbanks, Sharlene Flanders, so many. Bought woolen gifts for my 2 sisters and mother. One I hope to come back and visit someday! 2800 submarine docking operations. I saw the biggest snow flakes in my life there as big as half dollars, milk delivered with thick cream on top and the coal delivery guy was 5' at best but carried two giant bags of coal for us to heat with! Their bank stood on what is now the Co-op car park. Saugus at the U.S. floating nuclear submarine base at Holy Loch, Scotland. Bloomfield, CT 06002. The big guy who was a 1st Class BM? Divisions within the British government and concerns about protests by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) caused her arrival to be rescheduled to 3 March 1961. Take care and I appreciate your article. Never had more than overnight liberty so didn't see so much. Beautiful pictures, I was in the Marine Detachment onboard the Hunley from 1985-June 1987 when we were relieved by the Simon Lake. Mike, Thanks. I have wonderful memories of the people and the place and have been back once. relieve the Blue crew who had just successfully completed EDISON's 1st patrol. Although there do not appear to be any other instances of Lazaretto being used in the UK, the name can be found on a number of similar locations around the world. The Holy Loch is located on the central western coast of Scotland. His enthusiastic reception left him strongly of the opinion that we should seize every opportunity to show our appreciation of the massive United States effort in this part of the deterrent field. I was a inside machinists/marine mechanoic. In November '75 Canopus was relieved by the USS Holland (AS 32). I've tried fish & chips here and there since my Scotland tour, but they have not been the same.Anonymous, I too miss Scotland and it was a fine place to be stationed, even if the winter weather was awful.I miss the place, the people, and I even miss the Navy (Ha).Paul. In August '66 the Hunley was relieved by the USS Simon Lake (AS 33). The Navy is the asylum for the perverse, the home of the unfortunate. November 1975, the Canopus was relieved by the USS Holland (AS 32). You can read Paul Davis' crime columns, crime fiction, book reviews and news and feature articles on this website. HOLY LOCH PORT Ailson Downs Rankin's Brae, Sandbank, Dunoon PA23 8FE Tel: 01369 700810 Mobile: 07843 241320 Fax: 01369 704749 e: info@holylochport.co.uk : You can click on some of the above photos to enlarge., Paul Davis is a writer who covers crime. Thanks for writing.Paul, Myself and a couple other members of our Holy Loch American Veterans Association living here in Scotland are working with other organisations toward establishing a permanent American Heritage Centre here in the Dunoon area. We had our little spook shack on the back of the ship. What memories. Wished I could have stayed much longer. I have fond memories too of the loch. I got the royal tour of the highlands, did plenty of pub crawling and sightseeing. Our US presence here lasted over 31 years and we felt that there needs to be a place for folk to be able to visit. A service will be held on Monday, August 23, 2021 at 2PM at First Baptist Church, 414 Main Street, West Point, VA, 23181. google_cpa_choice = 'CAAQl6_zzwEaCNYAUlKOkBwoKPm093MwAA'; Loved the pubs in Dunoon and the fish & chips. Scotland-England gave us an appreciation for (1)its national health care system, (2)their sport of soccer - I became a ref for 10 years starting in 1995, (3)the Britsh TV program, "till death do us part," that became "all in the family" for the USA,(4)their foods = fish & chips wrapped in a newspaper, lamb, and bananna fritters. Holy Loch Known by sailors as the 'Marine gateway to Loch Lomond and The Trossachs National Park. Site One Holy Loch Scotland Association Created by William (Bill) Karr ETC(SS) (See other events) May 12, 2011 at 2:00am to May 15, 2011 at . Did you know my Dad, Orville Lee Gooden, electrician, teacher, diver. and the Firth of Clyde was one of the Royal Navys major submarine areas. Edinburgh has a statue of an ancestor of mine, Sir Wm Pitt. The American Legion is the nation's largest wartime veterans service organization aimed at advocating patriotism across the U.S. through diverse programs and member benefits. There are quite a few of us that remained here and in 2002 we formed the Holy Loch American Veterans Association. I am trying to find old friends, shipmates that he was with so I can invite them to a surprise 40th wedding anniversary party for he and .my sister, Janet Williams Shannon. they were based at the holy loch in 69 and went to America with the girls in 71. In April 1907, The Argyllshire Standard reported that the Third Class Battleship HMS Conqueror (the seventh of that name) was sold for scrap to TW Ward of Sheffield for 16,800, and the First Class Cruiser HMS Undaunted was sold to Harris Bros of Bristol for 14,400. aboard the USS Proteus. While there we drove just a few miles up the road to Benmore Botanic Garden and discovered a whole new side of Scotland that I never knew about when I was there for the few weeks every 3 months as we turned over or took over the sub (USS Lewis & Clark SSBN 644 Blue). and can not be used without permission from AboutSubs. Now live in Missoula, Montana (Scotland in Western Montana).Jesse Tropical Missoula, MontanaScotland in Western Montana. That is such a killer View. No automated processing by advertising systems is permitted.NO permission is granted for Phorm to intercept or process this site. Life is still good here in this beautiful part of the world. ['mark', 'firstbyte', (new Date()).getTime()]]; As a writer, he has attended police academy training, gone out on patrol with police officers, accompanied detectives as they worked cases, accompanied narcotics officers on drug raids, observed criminal court proceedings, visited jails and prisons, and covered street riots, mob wars and murder investigations. I went to the local primary and secondary school with many Americans and I have always felt a connection No matter where you go in the world theres always someone with a Dunoon story or memory. Its uncanny. Thanx for sharing, I was a US kid from 1986-1990 there. From the mail, milk and spare parts you brought us to the target practice you provided you tug boat guys were the unsung heroes of the site. Linda,You should be proud of your father's service. The plot was largely based on the Iranian Embassy Siege of 1980, in which the SAS stormed the building to rescue the hostages being held there. I took Highland dance lessons. The base, called "Site One," consisted of the USS Canopus, a 644 foot long ship called a submarine tender, a floating dry dock that could accommodate submarines, and a large barge with a super crane. Oh my. What fun those were. All Rights Reserved. During World War II, the Holy loch was used as submarine base. (267) 341-3228. Yeah, I'd like to go back as well Paul. Holy Loch, Scotland More like this Navy Day Us Navy Spiritual Warfare Prayers Amphibious Vehicle Ship Craft Sumter Military Humor Bigger Boat Navy Veteran USS Sumter (LST-1181) was the third ship of the twenty ship Newport-class tank landing ship, which replaced the traditional bow door design LST. Her interest in pottery started in the mid 1960s at Leicester Teacher Training College and continues today at Holy Loch Pottery. Hi Paul,I was stationed with you in Holy Loch. Krieger (EN3), Richard,Glad you enjoyed the photos and a bit of memory of the old base.I recall that our tugboat was serviced by the drydock for a quick couple of days between submarines. Hey anonymous, pulled in to the Hunley November of 86 on the Rickover, what was the nearest town where sailors would go for a pub, remember getting a pint 'o the heavy, had the BEST fish n chips there too! Site One - the Holy Loch was a significant, if somewhat discreet Cold War location. Dennis, We were there at the same time. Thanks for writing.Paul, Hello Paul I think you may have been there a little to early but Im trying to find the name of the ship that docked in 1989 around that time I lived at the holy loch I was a young girl back then and I can certainly tell you things are a lot different now the bace bowling ally are all gone everywhere is clear. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0] After over 44 years I still live here in Dunoon. Happy days. No automated processing by advertising systems is permitted. By the standards of Scottish lochs this loch is small.Dimensions are one mile wide and two-three miles long (dependent on tidal conditions). Enjoyed reading all of these articles,Im a local to Dunoon,I moved here two months after the USNavy left.All i here are these great stories about,how it was back then.Sounds amazing! Jon Elkins, hi anon, I am trying to trace an American couple based there in 1969, they provisionally adopted 2 girls from Glasgow social works dept in 71 and promptly took them to America.would you know of any of the americans were doing this. He enlisted in the U.S. Navy when he was 17 in 1970. Loved being there. USS George C. Marshall (SSBN-654), a Benjamin Franklin-class ballistic missile submarine, was the only ship of the United States Navy to be named for General of the Army George C. Marshall (1880-1959), who served as U.S. Secretary of State from 1947 to 1949 and as U.S. Secretary of Defense from 1950 to 1951. Was able to procure the alarm bell out of the Marine Corps Guardshack which we used during security violations. SITE ONE HOLY LOCH,SCOTLAND Air Force Units Army Units Coast Guard Units Marine Corps Units Navy Units Become a VetFriends Member Site Map Search Veterans & Personnel Photos, Humor, Stories & More Military Records & Resources Reunions, Parades, & Events Online Catalog About VetFriends My Profile MetLife Veteran Insurance Discounts Contact Us google_ad_format = '120x600_as'; HUNLEY and the SIMON LAKE. Proteus' crew were reputedly hand picked to give the best possible impression of the US. The 1943 film We Dive at Dawn, starring John Mills, was filmed in the area, including scenes shot at a number of sites including HMS Forth and and Ardnadam Pier. I nicked named Scotland land of the liquid sunshine. woman relaxing in nature. I was on the U.S.S. (My late father was also a CPO).Thanks for writing.Paul. Post Meeting: Contact Post Commander for date/time/location. Americans became active participants in many community related events. In the 23 years I did in the Navy, the 5 years I did in Holy Loch were the best. Holy Loch, near Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland A Brief History of Site One: In the autumn of 1959 the US Government presented the problem of providing forward servicing facilities for the first SSBN Squadron in the U.K. Studies were made of all the suitable places to base a refit facility and it was decided in July 1960 that Holy Loch should be the site. Bought an engagement ring from a shop in Edinburgh. A submarine tender and a drydock with an assorted collection of naval equipment, all located in a Scottish sea loch provided a vital link during the first decades of the US Navy's Polaris fleet operations, allowing quick and easy access to the patrol areas in the seas around the north and north west coast of . . SUBRON-14 expanded rapidly as the personnel gained experience and the number of supported submarines grew, but there would never a base at Holy Loch; instead, the US Navy facilities were integrated with the local community, with Sandbank and Dunoon providing shore facilities. accompanied me then, and on my subsequent assignment to the HOLLAND My husband was on the uss bluefish that was home in new london ct with frequent trips to this port. Dated young girl there back in the late sixties. submarines being supported by the Squadron varied over the years, and the measure I want to go back and visit with my family. Here the sons of adversity meet the children of calamity, and here the children of calamity meet the offspring of sin.Herman Melville (18191891), People run away from the name subsidy. You can go to http://thistlegroup.net/ and perhaps make some contacts there.Thanks for writing.Paul. I remember the Woolworth store and a little tobacco shop with good candy jars. in July '79. I'd like to take my wife on that kind of cruise and show her Scotland and the rest of the British Isles. Proteus, arrived on station march 3, 1961.) The selected men were trained on HMS Forth and in the surrounding area. Kilmun Parish Church and. We went back some time later when SSBN USS Job Patrick Henry was the first sub to arrive. Loved the photos and it brought back memories!My wife and I are both retired now for the second time at 56 and 57 and we really want to go to Dunoon and have a look around.I was on the Simon Lake and went to the Holland back in 1980 TAD for 4 months. Government presented the problem of providing forward servicing facilities for Previously classified state documents, which have now been opened and placed in the National Archives at Kew, show the MoD was keen for Americas Scottish-based arsenal to get royal approval. Finally, in June '87 the Hunley was relieved by the Simon Lake [for her 2nd The Dry Dock, USS Los Alamos (AFDB-7), was towed to Scotland in '61, and I have beenn able to find their Scottish minister and miraculously have arranged for him to come to America this September for the celebration. Holy Loch is a former submarine base situated in SW Scotland Holy Loch Mouth of Holy Loch Introduction The Holy Loch is a sea loch, a part of the Cowal peninsula coast of the Firth of Clyde, in S.W. You may add a comment or offer further details which may be included in the page above. I miss my shipmates & friends at Site One, Dunoon, Glasgow, and Edinburgh. Paul. to base a refit facility and it was decided in July 1960 that Holy Loch should I am very glad I made my way back because it is just a fantastic little piece of heaven on earth that I never saw during my earlier times there. Great read. I am not afraid to call it so. Moira is fascinated by the history ceramics and has travelled extensively to research traditional pottery techniques. })(); The Holy Loch is a sea loch which lies two miles north of Dunoon on the Cowal peninsula. My family All I have to say is what a beautiful place to be stationed and to this day its crazy on how much I still miss it . Robertson's Yard at Sandbank, a village on the loch, was a major wooden boat building company in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. I agree, Site One played a key role in the Cold war.And yes, like you, I'm proud of my service at Site One on the Saugus.Thanks for writing.Paul, Yes I was on board three submarines that ran out of holy loch. I was aboard the Saugus in 1975, but I don't recall your name. Thank you all for your service, Dot, wife of Leroy T Van Dyne, promoted to CPO in Holy Loch, 1966. Box 2865, Ewa Beach, Hawaii 96706 In May 1962, the US Navy arranged for the old Ardnadam Hotel to be converted into an enlisted mens' club, commissary and exchange. later the USS Patrick Henry (SSBN 599) arrived, and Proteus commenced the first DID ALOT OF HIKING WITH THE DUFFLE BAG FULL OF BEER. I will always remember how polite the people were there and I miss being there at times. Kitty Hawk during the Vietnam War and he later served two years aboard the Navy harbor tugboat U.S.S. - Helensburgh set to swell under wave of 1.3bn Navy expansion - Helensburgh Advertiser. I was. Thanks for writing.Paul, Mike, Good memories of serving with you on the tug. YEAH, THAT WAS THE BEST FISH & CHIPS, WRAPPED IN NEWS PRINT. for the memory's peace and respect to you, Steven,Sadly, I don't recall the name of the third chief I briefly served under in late 1975. I also lived on shore in a house that me and two other ship mates rented for $100 a month. Cut into the northwestern shore of the Firth of Clyde in Scotland's Argyll and Bute, Holy Loch gets its name from its long association with Christian churches. The entrance lies on the west coast of the Firth of Clyde, marked by Strone Point to the north, and Hunter's Quay to the south. Had wonderful shipmates and made lots of civilian friends during my "liberty" timeRaquetball, softball, bowling, hiking, several pub-crawlslife was always interesting:) Thanks for the memories Paul.John WalshHenrico, VA, John,Thanks. The call is free and confidential (private). In autumn 1959, the US Government had to provide forward servicing facilities for the first SSBN squadron to be based in the UK, and studies were carried out to determine the most suitable location for such a refit facility, leading to the final selection of the Holy Loch in July 1960. WHAT A SURPRISE. JB, Good to hear from another Holy Loch vet. Approximately one mile across, the loch extends inland for between two and three miles the west, depending on the tide. Jesse,Thanks for your service and thanks for writing.Paul. Join Navy Veterans. Saw a newspaper in August '66 that had a headline: "70 AGAIN TOMORROW, NO RELIEF IN SIGHT", Tom, Yes, I agree with you about the pubs and fish & chips. Am wanting to return and live there again. Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License, Queen Mother kept from US nuclear base in Scotland - The Scotsman, Helensburgh set to swell under wave of 1.3bn Navy expansion - Helensburgh Advertiser), The British government and the American Polaris base in the Clyde, Journal for Maritime Reserch, 2001, Department of Defence Legacy Cold War Project, USS Daniel Boone SSBN-629 Refit 39, Holy Loch, Scotland, December 1978- January 1979, January 1963, the Proteus was relieved by the, August 1966, the Hunley was relieved by the, May 1970, the Simon Lake was relieved the. In January '82 the Holland was relieved by Hunley, returning for a 2nd tour. Sadly its never recovered from the US Navy leaving.im pretty sure everyone would love them back.Anyway I just wanted to say,am eating Fish & chips fromAnselmos Chippy right now! The country and its people were truly awesome. Could you send some photos of yourself - then and now - to www.pauldavisoncrime.com.I wished that I had become friends with you as well. From 1961--1992, it was used as a US Polaris nuclear submarine base. @yahoo.com E-mail me when people leave their comments - Follow You need to be a member of Navy Veterans to add comments! Yeah, Mike. Browse 43,641 holy loch stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. In the early 1960s my husband was assigned to the USS Thomas Jefferson (SSBN 618). Feature articles on this website the Holland was relieved by the USS Thomas (! 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